tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826231802859523569.post6606351875012642876..comments2024-02-12T03:21:03.402-08:00Comments on Ron Martinsen's Photography Blog: First Look: Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM II – Perhaps Canon’s greatest lens!ronmartblog.comhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06815090271742112506noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826231802859523569.post-70235312267272957332010-03-25T20:35:54.152-07:002010-03-25T20:35:54.152-07:00For my headshot and portrait photography studio, I...For my headshot and portrait photography studio, I appreciate this lens and it is a workhouse. Thanks for the ISO comparison! I generally use between ISO 200 and 320 and you can see the results here: http://headshotpros.comDallas Portraits and Headshotshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00243446905068890513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826231802859523569.post-2896392818391651692010-03-02T09:23:55.851-08:002010-03-02T09:23:55.851-08:00... the brows and eyes do not look as sharp as wit...<i><b>... the brows and eyes do not look as sharp as with a 135 mm lens.</b></i><br /><br />Remember, these are the slow shutter speed - hand-held shots at 200mm. Had I bumped up the shutter speed to 1/160 as I had done in other shots, the sharpness goes up as I freeze the subject and further eliminate motion introduced by camera shake (IS is amazing, but the faster shutter speeds will always improve). <br /><br />The Canadian Flag shot in <a href="http://ronmart.blogspot.com/2010/03/review-topaz-labs-adjust-4-easiest-way.html" rel="nofollow">my Topaz Adjust 4 review</a> is an example of a high shutter speed shot with this lens that is pretty sharp. If you click on the image you'll get a larger version (don't forget to view it at 100% in Internet Explorer as its default behavior is to fit to the window). You can make out threads and fibers if a fast moving flag.ronmartblog.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06815090271742112506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826231802859523569.post-30287956870163967992010-03-02T07:35:36.715-08:002010-03-02T07:35:36.715-08:00The images look very good but I would not agree th...The images look very good but I would not agree that they are as sharp as if they were taken with a sharper Canon 135 mm even wide open.<br />Looking at the 100% scrop, the brows and eyes do not look as sharp as with a 135 mm lens.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826231802859523569.post-78521737777389820912010-02-27T18:03:44.221-08:002010-02-27T18:03:44.221-08:00"Seriously tho, with the new sensors you real..."Seriously tho, with the new sensors you really don't need to waste the money on lens..."<br /><br />I strongly disagree with your comment, but I published it anyway. <br /><br />Modern sensors are starting to outresolve older lens designs so the new lenses are indeed necessary to get the most out of what your sensor can deliver. Furthermore, you'll get better results with this lens on a 5D Mark I than you will with the older lens on a 1Ds Mark IV because both bodies can benefit from the added sharpness this lens offers. Even if you exclude sharpeness from the equation, the significantly improved image stablization and auto focus performance are advantages that you'd realize on very old cameras like a 10D or Rebel XT. Furthermore, 4 years from now that 1Ds Mark IV will look antiquated next to the latest Rebel body whereas this new lens will still be a king in Canon's lens line up.<br /><br />As I say elsewhere on this blog, your body is only as good as its lens - just like your stereo is only as good as its speakers.ronmartblog.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06815090271742112506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826231802859523569.post-39372906665404306442010-02-27T02:42:38.818-08:002010-02-27T02:42:38.818-08:00Seriously tho, with the new sensors you really don...Seriously tho, with the new sensors you really don't need to waste the money on lens.. I mean my current 70-200mm IS will suffice and Id rather spend the money on a better low light 1ds IV when it comes out ;-)<br />Its all a balance of power and Id rather have the newer body.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826231802859523569.post-37789204120316487532010-02-25T03:35:48.531-08:002010-02-25T03:35:48.531-08:001/15 @ 200mm, that's really remarkable. When t...1/15 @ 200mm, that's really remarkable. When they said four stops stabilization, they weren't kidding.<br /><br />The image quality is excellent as well. One could easily think that a prime lens was used to take those snaps.Lucasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826231802859523569.post-79656897119592808882010-02-24T23:50:05.475-08:002010-02-24T23:50:05.475-08:00RE: 135mm - In sharpness, yes I think it is at lea...RE: 135mm - In sharpness, yes I think it is at least as good as the 135mm. However, with respect to bokeh I didn't have enough work with this to make the tall claim that it could beat the 135mm f/2's dreamy bokeh. My guess would be no, which is also true of the wonderful 200mm f/2L IS USM too.ronmartblog.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06815090271742112506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826231802859523569.post-19295792479004516642010-02-24T21:59:25.862-08:002010-02-24T21:59:25.862-08:00Does this lens beat the 135mm F2?Does this lens beat the 135mm F2?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826231802859523569.post-49497131104260184402010-02-24T18:27:24.054-08:002010-02-24T18:27:24.054-08:00Thanks Andrew!
If you look at the last shots in t...Thanks Andrew!<br /><br />If you look at the last shots in the gallery you'll see some a f/5.6(or f/6.3 I think) with this lens, but yeah in general I shoot at f/2.8 @ 200mm a lot with this lens.<br /><br />Outside in the wind on a less stable surface my results weren't as good as they were indoors, but still I've never pulled off a 1/8 or 1/15th before this.<br /><br />Heck, I think I've even blown shots at that speed on my tripod due to letting the camera strap move, so to get them by hand was a real thrill for me! :-)ronmartblog.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06815090271742112506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826231802859523569.post-29570328945708372692010-02-24T18:13:58.487-08:002010-02-24T18:13:58.487-08:00For those who may be too lazy to look up the exif,...For those who may be too lazy to look up the exif, I'll post the aperture value for each photo here for you (hope you don't mind Ron)<br /><br />(In the order above)<br />1 - f2.8<br />2 - f2.8<br />3 - f2.8<br />4 - f2.8<br /><br />I think I see a pattern here hahaha<br /><br />Thanks for the comments and raw jpgs. Looks like something for me to save up for as well, 1/15th or 1/8th of a second is pretty darn convenient.Andrew Jenningshttp://www.andrew-jennings.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826231802859523569.post-51102968475576354212010-02-24T15:54:00.797-08:002010-02-24T15:54:00.797-08:00jfretless - Ha, ha - yeah, I didn't get a chan...jfretless - Ha, ha - yeah, I didn't get a chance to do those. <br /><br />I do have some comparision shots taken with the old and new lens that I still need to get online, but I haven't had a chance to do that.<br /><br />Check back from time to time (or subscribe to this blog) as I will get those pictures online.ronmartblog.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06815090271742112506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826231802859523569.post-39639490330786859042010-02-24T15:00:31.935-08:002010-02-24T15:00:31.935-08:00Ron, - thanks for this info - great samples (Tessa...Ron, - thanks for this info - great samples (Tessa!)<br />Yes - noodles for a while, but it looks to be worth it!!Moffat Creative Images (MCIPhoto)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17181583023749948649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826231802859523569.post-11650878784788287552010-02-24T14:56:45.211-08:002010-02-24T14:56:45.211-08:00Ron, great info, and good examples.
Yes - noodles...Ron, great info, and good examples.<br />Yes - noodles for a while, but worth it!Moffat Creative Images (MCIPhoto)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17181583023749948649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826231802859523569.post-12005844788587761322010-02-24T14:23:48.934-08:002010-02-24T14:23:48.934-08:00Yeah... Forget about the real world samples, like ...Yeah... Forget about the real world samples, like the ones you provided, we want pictures of focusing charts and cats next to our computer keyboards!jfretlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07001710539787915894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826231802859523569.post-50376109625424872502010-02-24T13:48:57.447-08:002010-02-24T13:48:57.447-08:00I hear you MrSkinny! I anticipated this would be a...I hear you MrSkinny! I anticipated this would be a good one so I sold my original 70-200 f/2.8L IS USM last November. It's been hell living without it, but it's given me some time to save some extra pennies to try to make up the price difference. <br /><br />Still, it may be Ramen noodles for dinner for a few months after getting this one - ha, ha!ronmartblog.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06815090271742112506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826231802859523569.post-23486966616620238442010-02-24T13:25:18.210-08:002010-02-24T13:25:18.210-08:00The details is simply amazing... Wish my bank woul...The details is simply amazing... Wish my bank would allow for such equipment...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826231802859523569.post-25602533383539848312010-02-24T13:03:39.043-08:002010-02-24T13:03:39.043-08:00F-stop isn't super important here, but you can...F-stop isn't super important here, but you can easily view most of the important EXIF data by doing the following:<br /><br />1. Click the image which will take you to smugmug and show you an original. <br /><br />2. Click on the image to close the lightbox and then hover over the image to the right to see a fly out menu which will have a Photo Info link. <br /><br />Alternatively, you can just go to http://ronmart.smugmug.com/Blog/Olympics/Day2 and hover over any of images 1-13 and click on Photo Info.ronmartblog.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06815090271742112506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826231802859523569.post-59605146901655083472010-02-24T12:23:29.872-08:002010-02-24T12:23:29.872-08:00What f-stop was used for these images? How can we ...What f-stop was used for these images? How can we evaluate the images without that info?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826231802859523569.post-10837375443804994722010-02-22T07:42:32.768-08:002010-02-22T07:42:32.768-08:00What was the appertures used in those shots?What was the appertures used in those shots?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826231802859523569.post-1305443033954621052010-02-19T12:09:28.951-08:002010-02-19T12:09:28.951-08:00I agree, and I hope to get a chance to do that tod...I agree, and I hope to get a chance to do that today before I have to return it. It's been a super busy week so I haven't been able to enjoy this lens as much as I would like. <br /><br />More content will be added to this article!ronmartblog.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06815090271742112506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826231802859523569.post-39174712074197815852010-02-19T08:36:59.244-08:002010-02-19T08:36:59.244-08:00When things get less crazy, if you still have acce...When things get less crazy, if you still have access to the new lens, there's something major missing in your post. Sure the close-ups are nice, but it's a new version of an existing lens -- so, the one thing that I'd expect any review to show is comparison shots w/ the old version. Just a thought for a future, more detailed, review.Jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03655359102647497203noreply@blogger.com